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		<title>Skype 4.0 for Windows is out: Pros and cons (compared with Linux Skype 2.0)</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2009/06/24/skype-40-for-windows-is-out-pros-and-cons-compared-with-linux-skype-20/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LadyRostand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The new Skype 4.0 for Windows is out and I am not convinced at all. It has changed substantially and the changes are causing me problems so far. Maybe when I use it more, my opinion will change. I'll be keeping track of the pros and cons. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At work I use a Windows PC which this morning updated Skype to the latest version: Skype 4.0. I just checked the Skype website and it seems it&#8217;s been out from the 3rd of June. I use Skype quite a bit (for work and leisure) and my first impressions are&#8230; mixed.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the new design for those of you who don&#8217;t have the new version yet (specially Linux users, as myself&#8230; Oh I just realized the Skype version I have in this laptop at home running Linux is Skype 2.0).</p>
<p><center><br />
<a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/new-skype-v04.PNG" title="skype-4"></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/new-skype-v04.PNG" title="skype-4"><img src="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/new-skype-v04.thumbnail.PNG" alt="skype-4" /></a></p>
<p align="left">For comparison purposes, here is an image of Skype 2.0 for Linux (both the contact list and the chat window)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/old-skype-v2.png" title="old-skype-2a"><img src="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/old-skype-v2.thumbnail.png" alt="old-skype-2a" /></a>         <a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/old-skype-v2b.png" title="old-skype-2b"><img src="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/old-skype-v2b.thumbnail.png" alt="old-skype-2b" /></a></p>
<p align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="left">Comparison table between Skype 4.0 (for Windows) and Skype 2.0 (for Linux):</p>
<table class="taulota">
<tr>
<td></td>
<td align="center" width="20%"><strong>Skype 4.0</strong></td>
<td align="center" width="20%"><strong>Skype 2.0</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>Comments</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>I prefer&#8230;</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Contacts and Conversations windows</strong></td>
<td align="center">Together</td>
<td align="center">Separate (one per conversation)</td>
<td>I agree that having a separate window for each chat conversation can make you go a bit crazy having to move from chat window to chat window. But you still have to change views in Skype 4.0 to move between conversations and you cannot see two conversations at the same time.</td>
<td align="center">Skype 2.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Minimum Skype window size</strong></td>
<td align="center">800 x 565px</td>
<td align="center">231 x 426 px<br />
(Contacts window)<br />
506 x 326 px<br />
(each conversation window)</td>
<td>I have not found a way of reducing it. When I am not chatting with anybody I would rather not have it occupying so much space.</td>
<td align="center">Skype 2.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Contacts status icons</strong></td>
<td align="center">Different colours</td>
<td align="center">Same colour, different mini icons on top</td>
<td>I actually like the different colours of Skype 4.0 better. Only complain: the icons for people that have not shared the contact details with you (which in Skype 2.0 appeared as a question mark) now look exactly the same as those of contacts off-line.</td>
<td align="center">Skype 4.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Messages in conversation window</strong></td>
<td align="center">Appear under the name of who wrote them</td>
<td align="center">Appear following &#8230;</td>
<td>Adding the fact that one cannot change the colour (one can&#8217;t, right?) of the text, a few times today I mistook what I had just written for comments from the other person. Very very confusing and difficult to follow who has said what. Not looking forward to 3 people&#8217;s conversations!</td>
<td align="center">Skype 2.0</td>
</tr>
</table>
<p></center>I&#8217;ll update this post as I notice new pros and cons of the new version.</p>
<p>For the record:</p>
<ul>
<li>24/06/2009 =&gt; 3 votes for Skype 2.0, one for Skype 4.0. New version not looking very good&#8230;</li>
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		<title>Too much success and popularity?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ZoltarStark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today a new version of Firefox web browser has been released. It's version 3.0 which has been available as beta for a while already.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today a new version of Firefox web browser has been released. It&#8217;s version 3.0 which has been available as beta for a while already.</p>
<p>Version 1.0 of Wine has been published today as well. Wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs directly in many Unixes, including Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OS X and Solaris.</p>
<p>Firefox team had announced the release date in advance and for some time the <a href="http://getfirefox.com">website</a> from where you can download the new version of the web browser has been unavailable. Wine <a href="http://winehq.org/">website</a> was also down temporarily.</p>
<p>At this moment both websites seem to be up again but one wonders if this was the case of a bigger success than expected&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Automatic backup of Windows computers using Linux</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ZoltarStark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Learn how to setup automatic backups of Windows computers using only free Linux software. The solution stores the backups on a Linux server using rsnapshot, samba and autofs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite a common setup for people is to use Windows PCs with Linux servers. This configuration allows you to benefit from a stable, standard based and secure server platform which doesn&#8217;t burn a whole in your pocket while letting the users continue operating the tools they know. A usual solution is to run <a href="http://www.samba.org/">samba</a> on a Linux server which can then act as a Windows Domain Controller. This allows Windows clients to log on to the domain and access file and printer shares on the server. Of course you can also have Linux clients integrated in that configuration but this is not going to be the subject of this article.</p>
<p>Usually the Windows PCs store the user profiles on the server. Backing the user profiles can then be done as part of backing up the whole server. You might have some other files though which are not part of the user profile. Backing up these files can be easily done using <a href="http://www.rsnapshot.org/">rsnapshot</a> and <a href="http://wiki.autofs.net/">autofs</a>.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll use autofs to setup file sharing between the Windows PCs and the Linux server. This is especially useful for computers which are not always connected to the network like laptops, although people do turn off their desktops as well from time to time. What autofs allows us to do is to activate file sharing only when it&#8217;s needed for the purpose of doing a backup.</p>
<p>Performing the actual backup will be done using rsnapshot. This tool, which I already mentioned in a <a href="/2008/02/08/thats-how-ive-learned-to-like-jazz/">previous post</a>, allows space efficient backups which are stored incrementally while offering ease of access usually associated with full backups.</p>
<p>Before setting up autofs we need to <a href="http://www.balliol.ox.ac.uk/comp/shares/index.asp">create a network share</a> on the Windows PC. Remember the user and the password since we&#8217;ll need them later on. In this article I&#8217;m going to assume the user name is <em>backup</em> and the password is <em>secret</em> but you should use something more difficult to guess depending on your security requirements. I&#8217;m also assuming the Windows domain is called <em>company</em>. On the Linux server you then need to make sure you&#8217;ve got <em>autofs</em> installed. Installation of <em>autofs</em> is not covered here but usually it&#8217;s as simple as executing <code>yum install autofs</code>. You need to edit <code>/etc/auto.master</code> file and add this line</p>
<p><code>/smb /etc/auto.windows --timeout=60</code></p>
<p>Then you create the file <code>/etc/auto.windows</code> containing the following, in a single line:</p>
<p><code><em>&lt;share&gt;</em> -fstype=smbfs,<br />
credentials=/etc/auto.windows.<em>&lt;credentials file&gt;</em>,<br />
uid=<em>&lt;user&gt;</em>,gid=<em>&lt;group&gt;</em>,<br />
fmask=0755,dmask=0755  ://<em>&lt;windows PC&gt;</em>/<em>&lt;network share&gt;</em></code></p>
<p>This must be written on a single line, with no separating spaces starting from <code>-fstype</code> to <code>dmask=0755</code></p>
<p><code>&lt;share&gt;</code> is the name of directory where you want to mount the network share from Windows PC.</p>
<p><code>/etc/auto.windows.&lt;credentials file&gt;</code> is the name of file where you store the user name and password needed to access the network share on Windows PC. In our case it will look like this:</p>
<p><code>username = backup<br />
password = secret<br />
domain = company<br />
</code></p>
<p>After these preparations it&#8217;s time to tell the <em>autofs</em> daemon about these changes by executing <code>service autofs reload</code> or a corresponding command. You should be able now to see that the network share gets automatically mounted when you execute <code>ls /smb/&lt;share&gt;</code>. After 60 seconds the share will be unmounted.</p>
<p>Now the last part &#8211; setting up rsnapshot. Just follow the <a href="http://www.rsnapshot.org/howto/1.2/rsnapshot-HOWTO.en.html">instructions</a> for rsnapshot as if the directory <code>/smb/&lt;share&gt;</code> was local. Thanks to <em>autofs</em>, rsnapshot doesn&#8217;t need to know that it&#8217;s really on a different computer running Windows. Remember to set up a cron job if this is your first time you&#8217;re using <em>rsnapshot</em>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it. You&#8217;ve configured an automatic backup of a Windows computer using Linux. You can repeat this procedure on further Windows clients.</p>
<p>P.S. Another approach is described <a href="http://www.stillnetstudios.com/2006/12/09/snapshot-backups-howto/">here</a> but it has the drawback that it requires installing additional software on the Windows PCs.</p>
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