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		<title>Skype 4.0 for Windows is out: Pros and cons (compared with Linux Skype 2.0)</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2009/06/24/skype-40-for-windows-is-out-pros-and-cons-compared-with-linux-skype-20/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LadyRostand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The new Skype 4.0 for Windows is out and I am not convinced at all. It has changed substantially and the changes are causing me problems so far. Maybe when I use it more, my opinion will change. I'll be keeping track of the pros and cons. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At work I use a Windows PC which this morning updated Skype to the latest version: Skype 4.0. I just checked the Skype website and it seems it&#8217;s been out from the 3rd of June. I use Skype quite a bit (for work and leisure) and my first impressions are&#8230; mixed.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the new design for those of you who don&#8217;t have the new version yet (specially Linux users, as myself&#8230; Oh I just realized the Skype version I have in this laptop at home running Linux is Skype 2.0).</p>
<p><center><br />
<a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/new-skype-v04.PNG" title="skype-4"></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/new-skype-v04.PNG" title="skype-4"><img src="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/new-skype-v04.thumbnail.PNG" alt="skype-4" /></a></p>
<p align="left">For comparison purposes, here is an image of Skype 2.0 for Linux (both the contact list and the chat window)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/old-skype-v2.png" title="old-skype-2a"><img src="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/old-skype-v2.thumbnail.png" alt="old-skype-2a" /></a>         <a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/old-skype-v2b.png" title="old-skype-2b"><img src="http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/old-skype-v2b.thumbnail.png" alt="old-skype-2b" /></a></p>
<p align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="left">Comparison table between Skype 4.0 (for Windows) and Skype 2.0 (for Linux):</p>
<table class="taulota">
<tr>
<td></td>
<td align="center" width="20%"><strong>Skype 4.0</strong></td>
<td align="center" width="20%"><strong>Skype 2.0</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>Comments</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>I prefer&#8230;</strong></td>
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<tr>
<td><strong>Contacts and Conversations windows</strong></td>
<td align="center">Together</td>
<td align="center">Separate (one per conversation)</td>
<td>I agree that having a separate window for each chat conversation can make you go a bit crazy having to move from chat window to chat window. But you still have to change views in Skype 4.0 to move between conversations and you cannot see two conversations at the same time.</td>
<td align="center">Skype 2.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Minimum Skype window size</strong></td>
<td align="center">800 x 565px</td>
<td align="center">231 x 426 px<br />
(Contacts window)<br />
506 x 326 px<br />
(each conversation window)</td>
<td>I have not found a way of reducing it. When I am not chatting with anybody I would rather not have it occupying so much space.</td>
<td align="center">Skype 2.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Contacts status icons</strong></td>
<td align="center">Different colours</td>
<td align="center">Same colour, different mini icons on top</td>
<td>I actually like the different colours of Skype 4.0 better. Only complain: the icons for people that have not shared the contact details with you (which in Skype 2.0 appeared as a question mark) now look exactly the same as those of contacts off-line.</td>
<td align="center">Skype 4.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Messages in conversation window</strong></td>
<td align="center">Appear under the name of who wrote them</td>
<td align="center">Appear following &#8230;</td>
<td>Adding the fact that one cannot change the colour (one can&#8217;t, right?) of the text, a few times today I mistook what I had just written for comments from the other person. Very very confusing and difficult to follow who has said what. Not looking forward to 3 people&#8217;s conversations!</td>
<td align="center">Skype 2.0</td>
</tr>
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<p></center>I&#8217;ll update this post as I notice new pros and cons of the new version.</p>
<p>For the record:</p>
<ul>
<li>24/06/2009 =&gt; 3 votes for Skype 2.0, one for Skype 4.0. New version not looking very good&#8230;</li>
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<h3>Related post(s)</h3><ul class="related_post"><li><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/06/17/too-much-success-and-popularity/" title="Too much success and popularity?">Too much success and popularity? (0)</a></li><li><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/04/03/i-cant-stop-smiling-we-got-an-asus-eee-pc/" title="I can&#8217;t stop smiling&#8230; we got an Asus Eee PC! ">I can&#8217;t stop smiling&#8230; we got an Asus Eee PC!  (2)</a></li><li><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/02/21/automatic-backup-of-windows-computers-using-linux/" title="Automatic backup of Windows computers using Linux">Automatic backup of Windows computers using Linux (5)</a></li><li><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/2009/02/21/ups-on-centos-with-selinux-part-2/" title="Setting up UPS on CentOS 5.2 with SELinux, part 2">Setting up UPS on CentOS 5.2 with SELinux, part 2 (1)</a></li><li><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/2009/02/19/ups-on-centos-with-selinux-part-1/" title="Setting up UPS on CentOS 5.2 with SELinux, part 1">Setting up UPS on CentOS 5.2 with SELinux, part 1 (0)</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>I can&#8217;t stop smiling&#8230; we got an Asus Eee PC!</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/04/03/i-cant-stop-smiling-we-got-an-asus-eee-pc/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LadyRostand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Olivetalks got an Eee laptop. One of those tiny ASUS computers that run Linux and boot in no time. It does have a few things we don't like, but overall the kiddo-pc is all they said it was! One can take the Eee on trips to check email, finish that important document or... play Solitaire? Now if only my fingers weren't so fat... ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s so cute!</p>
<p><em>Right, what a girlie comment to say. I mean, it is a laptop, woman, not a puppy!</em></p>
<p>Yeah, so it has another positive thing besides being cute, it does not lick you!</p>
<p>This is a post about the tiny Asus laptops for all audiences. Check what is the first question that pops in your head when you hear someone say &#8220;I just bought myself an EEE&#8221; and you will know the group you belong to:</p>
<ol>
<li><em>eee&#8230; eeeh&#8230; what?</em></li>
<li><em>wow! so, is it as cool as they say it is?</em></li>
<li><em>I see, so which one did you get? what are the full specs? Anything else I should know about that model?</em></li>
</ol>
<p><em><br />
</em></p>
<h3><font color="#008000">The answers for the <em><font color="#000000">eee&#8230; eeeh&#8230; what?</font> </em>people:</font></h3>
<p>This is an Asus Eee laptop.</p>
<p align="center"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/img_small.jpg" title="Eeepc-250"><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/eee-250px.jpg" alt="Eeepc-250" /></a></p>
<p>Well, not any Eee laptop, but our own Eee PC <img src='http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  Yup, the pen is also mine and it shows you how tiny the Eee is <img src='http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  And it weighs less than a kilo and a minute after taking it out of the box, you can already start working (with OpenOffice.org or GoogleDocs or Paint&#8230;), surfing the net (Firefox is there, Skype, Pidgin -the Linux MSN equivalent-, and Thunderbird as well) or even playing solitaire or with a Mr. Potato. And why did we buy it you ask? Well, it will be a better traveling companion than my 3 kg laptop which makes me walk around airports worse than the Hunchback of Notre-Dame did. Oh and the first answer I gave my mother when she asked the same question is also true: because&#8230; they had it in the shop&#8230; <em><br />
</em></p>
<h3><font color="#008000">The answers for the <em><font color="#000000">wow! so, is it as cool as they say it is?</font> </em>people:</font></h3>
<p>Yup! So far&#8230; Do you want the pros and the cons? Ok:</p>
<p><strong>Pros</strong>:</p>
<ol>
<li>Yes, it weighs less than 1 kg.</li>
<li>The 7&#8242; screen although small, actually displays a lot more/better than I expected.
<p align="center"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/screen-eee2-400px.jpg" title="screen-Eee2-200px.jpg"><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/screen-eee2-200px.jpg" alt="screen-Eee2-200px.jpg" /></a></p>
</li>
<li>Setting it up is like no time. Seriously, I think it took us about 2 minutes to be at the screen where you can open Firefox already.</li>
<li>The kiddo-laptop connected to wireless without a glitch and we were able to download and install the newer version of skype (to be able to use the built-in camera) within a minute.</li>
<li>If yous mess up the system, you can restore the whole laptop back to factory settings in under two minutes. In <a href="http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2007/11/video-how-quick.html" title="/video-how-quick.html">jkOnTheRun</a> they even have a video showing you how quick it is!</li>
<li>It boots in 30 seconds and powers off in 12! Yes, I timed both processes.</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>Cons</strong>:</p>
<ol>
<li>The keyboard IS small. I have problems most of all with pressing the Shift button. Look at the following image:
<p align="center"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/compare-keyboards-400px.jpg" title="compare-keyboards-200px"><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/compare-keyboards-200px.jpg" alt="compare-keyboards-200px" /></a></p>
<p>You can see how small the keyboard is, compared to a &#8220;normal-size&#8221; one. I have placed a 1 cent coin on  the letter D on both keyboards so you can see the relative sizes better. Oh, the mouse is a small-mouse as well (which did not come with the Eee).</li>
<li>ZoltarStark thinks the display organization with the buttons in the main screen to open Firefox, Spreadsheets, etc is not very efficient if you&#8217;re a power user since you need to point and click instead of selecting items from a menu.
<p align="center"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/screen-eee1-400px.jpg" title="screen-Eee1-200px.jpg"><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/screen-eee1-200px.jpg" alt="screen-Eee1-200px.jpg" /></a></p>
</li>
<li>The laptop seems to be designed with Windows users in mind and it has the same folder architecture as Windows Explorer with My documents folder and so on set up by default. Even worse, though, is that it asks you to reboot the laptop after every software update, like Microsoft does. Then again, with a total of 40 seconds required per reboot, it&#8217;s not as bad as it could be. <img src='http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
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<p><em><br />
</em></p>
<h3><font color="#008000">The answers for the <em><font color="#000000">I see, so which one did you get? what are the full specs? Anything else I should know about that model?</font> </em>people:</font></h3>
<p>We bought the <strong>Asus Eee PC 4G</strong>. For those of you that don&#8217;t know the difference between the Eee versions, check out <a href="http://eeepc.asus.com/global/product.htm" title="eees">this table</a>. As a summary, all four models have a 7&#8242; display and Linux pre-installed (with the number of software applications varying depending on the disk size), Ethernet, WLAN, built-in speaker and microphone, and weigh 0.92 kg. They all have three USB 2.0 ports and a MMC/SD (HC) card reader slot. Furthermore:<br />
<center></p>
<table class="tauleta" width="40%">
<tr>
<td><strong>Model name<br />
</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>Eee PC 2G Surf</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>Eee PC 4G Surf</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>Eee PC 4G</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>Eee PC 8G</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong><font color="#008000">Processor</font></strong></td>
<td align="center">800 MHz Intel Cele</td>
<td colspan="3" align="center">900 MHz Intel Cel</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong><font color="#008000">RAM</font></strong></td>
<td align="center">512 MB</td>
<td align="center">512 MB</td>
<td align="center">512 MB</td>
<td align="center">1 GB</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><font color="#008000"><strong>Total storage space</strong></font></td>
<td align="center">2 GB</td>
<td align="center">4 GB</td>
<td align="center">4 GB</td>
<td align="center">8 GB</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><font color="#008000"><strong>Empty storage space</strong></font></td>
<td align="center">400 MB</td>
<td align="center">1.4 GB</td>
<td align="center">1.4 GB</td>
<td align="center">5.1 GB</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><font color="#008000"><strong>Camera</strong></font></td>
<td align="center">No</td>
<td align="center">No</td>
<td align="center">Yes</td>
<td align="center">Yes</td>
</tr>
</table>
<p></center><br />
Plus, the RAM of the 4G and 8G models can be upgraded up to 2GB! We got it from a German PC shop for 300 EUR which we found quite cheap, as some shops in Amazon ask for that price for the 2G Surf model. The catch of course is that we got it with the OS in German, as well as the keyboard. BUT, it took us two minutes to change the OS to UK English and another minute for the keyboard. You can see the instructions of how to do both things <a href="http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:changelanguage" title="howto:changelanguage">here</a>. After these changes, the OS and most software programs (like Firefox and OpenOffice.org) appear in English (or whatever language you choose). A few stayed in German, but I don&#8217;t mind having Acrobat Reader in German (yes, Acrobat is the default PDF reader installed!). And as long as you don&#8217;t look at the keys, you can pretend you are using a UK keyboard no problem <img src='http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  .<strong>Summary?</strong> I am glad I did not buy the Surf versions and I might regret not having waited for the 8G version, for the extra default RAM and storage space, but right now, I really like this Eee. As a side laptpop, it is useful to run for example Skype in it while using your main PC to work, so Skype does not use all the CPU in your main computer as it sometimes does. As a main laptop&#8230; probably only when traveling. I will be spending some hours working on it in a couple of weeks, so I will come back with a report then.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><em>Update (17th April 2008)</em>:  </font>A review just came out on the &#8220;big&#8221; brother of the Asus Eee 7&#8243; laptop, the <a href="http://www.trustedreviews.com/notebooks/review/2008/04/16/Asus-Eee-PC-900/p1" title="Asus-Eee-PC-900">Asus Eee PC 900</a> (as in 8.9&#8243; ~ 9 inch screen). It seems it has the same CPU, but 1GB of RAM to start with, and 20GB of storage if you buy the version running Linux (there is Eee 900 version running Windows XP, <a href="http://www.eee-900.co.uk/" title="eee-900">for the same price</a>, that has 12 GB of space instead). I am starting to save to get my ASUS 700 Eee a big brother <img src='http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<h3>Related post(s)</h3><ul class="related_post"><li><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/2009/06/24/skype-40-for-windows-is-out-pros-and-cons-compared-with-linux-skype-20/" title="Skype 4.0 for Windows is out: Pros and cons (compared with Linux Skype 2.0) ">Skype 4.0 for Windows is out: Pros and cons (compared with Linux Skype 2.0)  (1)</a></li><li><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/2009/02/17/big-eee/" title="Eee PC 901 &#8211; aka Big Eee">Eee PC 901 &#8211; aka Big Eee (0)</a></li><li><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/2009/02/21/ups-on-centos-with-selinux-part-2/" title="Setting up UPS on CentOS 5.2 with SELinux, part 2">Setting up UPS on CentOS 5.2 with SELinux, part 2 (1)</a></li><li><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/2009/02/19/ups-on-centos-with-selinux-part-1/" title="Setting up UPS on CentOS 5.2 with SELinux, part 1">Setting up UPS on CentOS 5.2 with SELinux, part 1 (0)</a></li><li><a href="http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/06/17/too-much-success-and-popularity/" title="Too much success and popularity?">Too much success and popularity? (0)</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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