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		<title>10 weird things about the health system in Jena</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My recent experience with the health system in Jena plus the visit to olivetalks of a reader who is moving to Jena in September have prompted me to write this post. It was overall a weird experience and it all started with a <i>Good morning, Dr. xxx's office, are you sick?</i>...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been a while since I have written any 10 weird things posts. I still have 10 weird things in Buenos Aires and Tunja/Bogotá to write, but my recent experience with the health system in Jena plus the visit to olivetalks of a reader who is moving to Jena in September (hello <strong>Moving to Jena</strong>) have prompted me to write this post first instead. This list, as all the others, is made up of things that have surprised me (or ZoltarStark), probably because of our different backgrounds (i.e. not being brought up here). It is not necessarily because they are weird in the strictest sense (like an elephant wearing a tutu would be found weird by every single person in the world&#8230; I think&#8230; no? you don&#8217;t find it weird? Dude, where are you from?) . So, if you don&#8217;t find any of the listed items weird&#8230; feel free to call me weird <img src='http://www.olivetalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />   Oh, and it&#8217;s a list about weird things in the health system in Jena, and not Germany, because one should not generalize too much&#8230;</p>
<p>So, yesterday morning, after a week of coughing myself crazy, I decided to call and get an appointment with a doctor. I will walk you through the morning and share with you my impressions (&#8221;weirdations&#8221;).</p>
<p><strong>1.</strong> I  got up at 9 and went straight to the phone to call an MD I had been suggested because she spoke English (I have survival German by now, but I didn&#8217;t really want to chance getting confused and telling the doctor the wrong thing was hurting because I could not pronounce the words correctly). Now, just to make it clearer, the sentences in orange were spoken in German, translated here for your benefit (and mine&#8230; attempting to write them in German would make me take three hours extra to write this post). Sentences in italics are my thoughts, which I barely stopped from saying out loud. Sentences in green were originally in English. So I phoned, and the nice receptionist picked up the phone quite quickly.</p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- Good morning, Dr. xxx&#8217;s office, how may I help you?</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- Hello, I would like an appointment with Dr. xxx for today.</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- Impossible, I&#8217;m afraid, she&#8217;s booked all the way till June.</font> <em>(June???? German people can&#8217;t be THAT organized, can they??? They even know when they are going to get sick???) .</em> <font color="#ff6600">If you are really sick, you can try coming tomorrow between 7 and 8:30.</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- I see</font> <em>(not)</em><font color="#ff6600">. ok thank you.</font></p>
<p><strong>2.</strong> Now, all the references I had of this MD were that she spoke English, so I decided that I could just as well see if the one who is in my street spoke English. This one had a much smaller add in the Jena yellow pages, so surely she would be less booked out?</p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- Good morning, Dr. zzz&#8217;s office, how may I help you?</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- Hello, I wanted to know if Dr. zzz spoke English.</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- Yes, and?</font>  (now, imagine this said, in a harsh and no nonsense tone of voice).</p>
<p>-<em>(wow, that was harsh)</em> <font color="#ff6600">eeeh&#8230; because my German is not so good&#8230;</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">-&#8230;</font></p>
<p><strong>3.</strong> So, I decided to go for it.</p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- so&#8230; I would like an appointment with Dr. zzz for today.</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- she is all booked out.</font> <em>(as well????)</em></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600"> &#8211; oh&#8230;</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- are you sick?</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- eeeh&#8230; yeah&#8230;</font></p>
<p>This reinforced my impression that people in Jena just book visits to the doctor without actually being sick yet! I had to really bite my tongue to stop myself from saying <em>duh&#8230;</em></p>
<p><strong>4.</strong> And the harsh receptionist continued shocking me:</p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- What do you have?</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- eeeh&#8230; a cough? </font><em>(so glad I did not have something more personal going on&#8230;)</em></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- You can come now.</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- Now?</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- Yes, now.</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600">- Oh, ok&#8230; <em><font color="#000000">(I&#8217;ll get dressed&#8230;)</font></em></font></p>
<p><strong>5.</strong> So I made it to the doctor&#8217;s office and was asked to sit in the waiting room with half a dozen other (elderly) patients. After half an hour or so, I was escorted to the doctor&#8217;s room and after a sentence I did not get, she quite nicely switched to English. Nice that she switched, because her tone was even worse than the receptionist&#8217;s. Now, not rude, just&#8230; harsh. So I told her I had the flu last week and after it went again I was left with a nasty cough that is persistent after 7 days.</p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Flu? Why do you say it was flu?</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Muscle pains, slight fever, a person had it the week before, and then I got it, and another person besides me, at the same time, in the same household got it&#8230;</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- No. It could not be flu.</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Why not?</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Because it is not the time for the flu</font></p>
<p><em><font color="#000000">Oooh&#8230; I wasn&#8217;t aware of that&#8230; ok, then I had whatever is available for April???</font></em></p>
<p><strong>6.</strong> So, she checked my chest, ears, throat&#8230; the usual and then she asked me if I was ok with them ordering blood tests.</p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Eeeeh&#8230; if they are necessary?</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- they are going to cost you&#8230; wait let me check&#8230;</font></p>
<p>Two phone calls later</p>
<p><font color="#008000">- 140 EUR.</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- eeeh ok&#8230;</font> <em>I have been paying 200 EUR per month for almost two years to have Medical Insurance, and I haven&#8217;t been to the doctor even once in this time, and I&#8217;m going to say no to tests, now that I&#8217;m stick, because they cost money??</em><font color="#ff6600"> <font color="#008000">Sure&#8230;</font></font></p>
<p><strong>7. </strong>And the doctor continued with her questions:</p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Do your parents or grandparents have heart problems, ME, cancer&#8230;</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- No&#8230;</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Does it hurt when I do this? </font><em><font color="#000000">(and she started hitting me in the face in different places: front, cheeks, chin; and then the stomach, back&#8230;)</font></em></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Well, no&#8230;</font> <em>(assuming you mean no more than the pain resulting from you hitting me, woman! now, stop it!)</em></p>
<p><strong>8.</strong> And I wanted to explain how I felt, you know, so she would know&#8230;</p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Sometimes when I cough, the ears and throat&#8230;</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Yes, yes, do you smoke? so you drink alcohol? do you do sports?</font></p>
<p><em>Sorry for providing un-requested information, ma&#8217;am!  Won&#8217;t happen again, ma&#8217;am!</em></p>
<p><strong>9.</strong> And then the sex talk:</p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Could you be pregnant?</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- No, not that I&#8217;m aware.</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- No, for sure?</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Well, I&#8230;</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- You have safe sex, yes?</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Yes&#8230;</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Are you on the pill?</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- No&#8230;</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Then do you think you could be pregnant?</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff6600"><font color="#008000">- Well, no&#8230;</font> </font><em>(I mean not more than usual&#8230; I mean&#8230; as sure as you can be when you use condoms&#8230;)</em></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- If we give you medicines, they could be bad for the baby.</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- I am not pregnant.</font></p>
<p><font color="#008000">- Are you sure?</font></p>
<p><em>Woman, you are starting to freak me out!</em></p>
<p><strong>10.</strong> And after all, she diagnosed me with acute bronchitis, sent me to get X-rays to confirm I did not have Pneumonia (X-rays done in a different place on the same day and with a specialist telling me 30 minutes after the X-rays my lungs were pristine&#8230; you go, lungs!), and sent me to reception to get an appointment for next week&#8230;</p>
<p>and in spite of the booked out schedule of theirs&#8230;  I did get an appointment!</p>
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