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		<title>By: Ryder</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-1362</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very helpful post, you should post more stuff related to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very helpful post, you should post more stuff related to this.</p>
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		<title>By: WebTenet</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-1019</link>
		<dc:creator>WebTenet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The email policy page of HostGator on their Knowledge Base says &quot;Many of our servers have a limit of 60 POP3/IMAP checks per hour per e-mail address&quot;. Therefore if you have 12 email addresses, it is NOT true that each can check their email 5 times an hour. The POP3 check is per-hour per-email address. So if you have 100 or 500 email addresses, each can still check up to 60 times an hour (i.e once every minute). Honestly speaking, however busy person one may be, checking emails once every 5 minutes is usually sufficient, because if there are several new emails with attachments, it would take a couple of minutes to download to your Outlook.

Regarding the inode limit, I think this is really very harsh. I suggest many of my clients to host with HostGator, but some of them are avid users of &quot;webmail&quot; instead of outlook. They don&#039;t like to delete old emails from their inbox, don&#039;t clean the trash regularly, and also save send messages in the Sent Items folder. I have a feeling that such clients will quickly reach the 50000 inode limit. Any workaround for that? I just can&#039;t force someone to use outlook instead of webmail when the package says unlimited space, bandwidth and email accounts !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The email policy page of HostGator on their Knowledge Base says &#8220;Many of our servers have a limit of 60 POP3/IMAP checks per hour per e-mail address&#8221;. Therefore if you have 12 email addresses, it is NOT true that each can check their email 5 times an hour. The POP3 check is per-hour per-email address. So if you have 100 or 500 email addresses, each can still check up to 60 times an hour (i.e once every minute). Honestly speaking, however busy person one may be, checking emails once every 5 minutes is usually sufficient, because if there are several new emails with attachments, it would take a couple of minutes to download to your Outlook.</p>
<p>Regarding the inode limit, I think this is really very harsh. I suggest many of my clients to host with HostGator, but some of them are avid users of &#8220;webmail&#8221; instead of outlook. They don&#8217;t like to delete old emails from their inbox, don&#8217;t clean the trash regularly, and also save send messages in the Sent Items folder. I have a feeling that such clients will quickly reach the 50000 inode limit. Any workaround for that? I just can&#8217;t force someone to use outlook instead of webmail when the package says unlimited space, bandwidth and email accounts !!!</p>
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		<title>By: LadyRostand</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-364</link>
		<dc:creator>LadyRostand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hola Roger, 
crec que per no tindre limitació d&#039;inodes has de triar un &quot;dedicated server&quot; que en diuen (&quot;servidor dedicat&quot;? &quot;d&#039;ús propi?&quot;). Més car, però sense les limitacions que comente.  

Per cert, molt interessant el teu blog! On el tens ara?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola Roger,<br />
crec que per no tindre limitació d&#8217;inodes has de triar un &#8220;dedicated server&#8221; que en diuen (&#8221;servidor dedicat&#8221;? &#8220;d&#8217;ús propi?&#8221;). Més car, però sense les limitacions que comente.  </p>
<p>Per cert, molt interessant el teu blog! On el tens ara?</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hola, 

La veritat estava a punt de contractar el servei amb hostgator però necessite molts fitxers de l&#039;ordre de mil·lions... Estic buscant algun altre servei tipus hostmonster però no sé si tindran aquesta limitació, la resta no m&#039;afecten. En saps algun?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola, </p>
<p>La veritat estava a punt de contractar el servei amb hostgator però necessite molts fitxers de l&#8217;ordre de mil·lions&#8230; Estic buscant algun altre servei tipus hostmonster però no sé si tindran aquesta limitació, la resta no m&#8217;afecten. En saps algun?</p>
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		<title>By: LadyRostand</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>LadyRostand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi &lt;b&gt;SurplusGadgets&lt;/b&gt;, I haven&#039;t used Gallery myself, but from what you say and the number of inodes Konstantin Mikhaylov reported (check out the table &lt;a href=&quot;/2008/03/09/inodes-attack-part2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) it does sound like an inode nightmare. It&#039;s clear that one hostgator account would not be able to support more than a Gallery installation... You didn&#039;t leave a link, if you drop by again, do leave it, as I would like to see what a Gallery page looks like! 

Thanks &lt;b&gt;Abdullatif&lt;/b&gt;, glad I could help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi <b>SurplusGadgets</b>, I haven&#8217;t used Gallery myself, but from what you say and the number of inodes Konstantin Mikhaylov reported (check out the table <a href="/2008/03/09/inodes-attack-part2/" rel="nofollow">here</a>) it does sound like an inode nightmare. It&#8217;s clear that one hostgator account would not be able to support more than a Gallery installation&#8230; You didn&#8217;t leave a link, if you drop by again, do leave it, as I would like to see what a Gallery page looks like! </p>
<p>Thanks <b>Abdullatif</b>, glad I could help!</p>
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		<title>By: Abdullatif</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdullatif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello, thank you for the excellent article, i was attacked by the inodes, and you were my salvation, thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello, thank you for the excellent article, i was attacked by the inodes, and you were my salvation, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: SurplusGadgets</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>SurplusGadgets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, Gallery is a real killer.  Each photo is a minimum 3 inodes because it saves the original photo, the resized photo, and the thumbnail.  Then add inodes for each album in the gallery -- and it ads up quickly.  I have 10,000 photos in my gallery and, along with the few other software installs, easily hit the limit.

Nice to hear the email limit was increased.  I can go in and tweak my crontab job with PHPList now.  This has been a real pain for anyone hosting a group and has forced us to move email out to paid services or yahoogroups.com -- but then off our domain.  SPAM and email is a real pain these days and hosting services like hostgator, ipowerweb, etc are simply punting the issue but not telling anyone.  What is a non-profit to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, Gallery is a real killer.  Each photo is a minimum 3 inodes because it saves the original photo, the resized photo, and the thumbnail.  Then add inodes for each album in the gallery &#8212; and it ads up quickly.  I have 10,000 photos in my gallery and, along with the few other software installs, easily hit the limit.</p>
<p>Nice to hear the email limit was increased.  I can go in and tweak my crontab job with PHPList now.  This has been a real pain for anyone hosting a group and has forced us to move email out to paid services or yahoogroups.com &#8212; but then off our domain.  SPAM and email is a real pain these days and hosting services like hostgator, ipowerweb, etc are simply punting the issue but not telling anyone.  What is a non-profit to do?</p>
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		<title>By: LadyRostand</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>LadyRostand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3335 files + 206 folders are 3541 inodes 
 
but beware, there are some other type of &quot;files&quot; that are not counted as files but will count as inodes. But they will represent +50 extra inodes tops.

&lt;b&gt;DarkBoy&lt;/b&gt;, check out the follow-up post &lt;a href=&quot;/2008/03/05/inodes-attack-part1/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The attack of the inodes - how to find out your number&lt;/a&gt; for more information or to contribute to our table in &lt;a href=&quot;/2008/03/09/inodes-attack-part2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;part 2&lt;/a
&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3335 files + 206 folders are 3541 inodes </p>
<p>but beware, there are some other type of &#8220;files&#8221; that are not counted as files but will count as inodes. But they will represent +50 extra inodes tops.</p>
<p><b>DarkBoy</b>, check out the follow-up post <a href="/2008/03/05/inodes-attack-part1/" rel="nofollow">The attack of the inodes &#8211; how to find out your number</a> for more information or to contribute to our table in <a href="/2008/03/09/inodes-attack-part2/" rel="nofollow">part 2</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: DarkBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello an question, i have phpnuke8.1 with 3335 files and 206 folders after install, how many inodes are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello an question, i have phpnuke8.1 with 3335 files and 206 folders after install, how many inodes are?</p>
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		<title>By: LadyRostand</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>LadyRostand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again &lt;b&gt;dogma&lt;/b&gt;. It depends on what do you want to host, type of programs, web pages, number of users... If you give me more information and maybe leave the URL of a web page you already have I can have a look. Did you ask Hostgator about Postie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again <b>dogma</b>. It depends on what do you want to host, type of programs, web pages, number of users&#8230; If you give me more information and maybe leave the URL of a web page you already have I can have a look. Did you ask Hostgator about Postie?</p>
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		<title>By: dogma</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>dogma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks lady, I accept any suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks lady, I accept any suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: LadyRostand</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>LadyRostand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are welcome &lt;b&gt;dogma&lt;/b&gt;. I&#039;m really glad you found the pros and cons useful and good luck with whatever hosting company you use finally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are welcome <b>dogma</b>. I&#8217;m really glad you found the pros and cons useful and good luck with whatever hosting company you use finally.</p>
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		<title>By: dogma</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>dogma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand. Thanks a lot for your tips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand. Thanks a lot for your tips.</p>
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		<title>By: LadyRostand</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>LadyRostand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi &lt;b&gt;dogma&lt;/b&gt;, my experience is with shared accounts. As far as I&#039;ve read, all the pros and cons I&#039;ve discussed also hold with reseller accounts. Dedicated servers on the other hand have special (laxer) rules. 

I would suggest asking your question regarding POSTIE to Hostgator directly. They are quite good at answering them.

Thanks for passing by! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi <b>dogma</b>, my experience is with shared accounts. As far as I&#8217;ve read, all the pros and cons I&#8217;ve discussed also hold with reseller accounts. Dedicated servers on the other hand have special (laxer) rules. </p>
<p>I would suggest asking your question regarding POSTIE to Hostgator directly. They are quite good at answering them.</p>
<p>Thanks for passing by!</p>
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		<title>By: dogma</title>
		<link>http://www.olivetalks.com/2008/03/04/hostgator-pros-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>dogma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello. I want to know if the the commented Hostgator: pros and cons of their web hosting offer applies even into Reseller Web Hosting and the Dedicated Servers.


I need to use POSTIE (from infradig system) to send emails among the email accounts I would host into HostGator, but I seems No Direct SMTP mailers are allowed... Is this correct or POSTIE is not considered Direct SMTP mailer??

Great advices.
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. I want to know if the the commented Hostgator: pros and cons of their web hosting offer applies even into Reseller Web Hosting and the Dedicated Servers.</p>
<p>I need to use POSTIE (from infradig system) to send emails among the email accounts I would host into HostGator, but I seems No Direct SMTP mailers are allowed&#8230; Is this correct or POSTIE is not considered Direct SMTP mailer??</p>
<p>Great advices.<br />
Thanks.</p>
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